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mal
30th December 2009, 08:34 AM
Hi,
I need some advice on how to handle the next couple of days. We have been together for 15 years, married for 9. We are childless, we did try for some time but my wife was forced to have a hysterectomy 1.5 years ago. I am a young 49, she 42. Both attractive, fit professionals and financially ok.
I have known that our relationship is a little unsteady for some time, not that we argue or fight, just maybe lack of intimacy, I'm usually too busy or disinterested to talk. Our sex life is almost non existant. Otherwise we have a good life, not too many stresses, live in nice place.
Anyway In the past month I found my wife to be more irritable generally but I assumed that it was the stress of building work going on in our house for the past 2 months, although a part of me suspected that there were other reasons for her unhappiness. The problem seemed to get worse after she spent the weekend with her best friend (female) in London 2 weeks ago. (We live in Scotland) On Christmas Eve my wife went to bed early, taking her mobile telephone with her. Now this is completely out of charactor and did the same on Christmas day when she went upstairs for a cat nap. This prompted me to check calls and of course I found a strange number called by her everday. I rang it of course and got a mans answer service.
We have family guests for christmas and so I had to wait until they had retired before sitting down with my wife. She told me that she is very unhappy, we never talk, our sex life doesnt exist, she admitted (when confronted) that she has been talking to this 3rd person (male) who is a friend of her female friend whom she visited. That they are "just friends" and that nothing had happened between them although she liked him and could talk to him. I explained how hurt I was that she had decieved me, that I knew there were problems but loved her. She has repeatedlyapologised for her behaviour but feels a "blackness regarding her future" She also said that following the hysterectomy she felt very depressed and that at the time hoped not to recover from the surgery. This was a complete shock to me. I suggested seeing a therapist for that problem but she dismissed that saying that she had dealt with that problem. My initial reaction was to express my feeling of hurt and loss of trust in her and that it would be a difficult thing to deal with in the future. She immediately accused me of giving up on the marriage. I thought afterwards that it could be that she wants me to finish things? I dont know.
We have had to put further discussions on hold until Friday when our guests leave. In the meantime I have left the marital bed as it was just too much to be lying with someone who may not want you there. Her behaviour is up and down, one minute calling me darling, giving me a peck on the cheek and acting as though nothing were wrong and the next being clearly irritated by having to be with me. Lots of brave faces are going on at the moment due to our guests.
How should I deal with this? She has not mentioned it but I suspect that she will want some space and this might include a trip to her friend. How do I respond to this, my gut reaction will be to give her an ultimatum, "go and we seperate". I'm sure that she would promise not to have contact with the 3rd person but I will be driven out of my mind knowing that it could be happening. I have had one previous marriage which ended due to her unfathfullness and know how people can decieve. I didnt really deal well with that break down and suspect that if I had behaved with more dignity that things could have turned out differently. I am holding it together, sleepless nights and private tears. I dont want to spoil my chances of coming through this by my behaviour over the next few days.
I love my wife very much and would like to heal this rift, if possible and would go to therapist and make life changes to help the relationship.
I don't really have anyone to talk to so please, some advice

Raymond
30th December 2009, 01:54 PM
Difficult problems but nothing that cannot be sorted.

You obviously had problems before this trip to London and so she was vulnerable to a friendship with the opposite sex.

Her having an abortion can be a big problem. Some are plagued with a deep down guilt because of this and nothing short of asking God's forgiveness seems to move it. An organisation called "Pregnancy Crisis" may be able to give some good counseling on that front.

Being too busy for sex can cause one to drift in the marriage relationship. This can be cured by giving it a higher priority and talking about it. To prevent it feeling false attention should be given in how you relate. Basically the number one for the man is to love her. Make her feel wanted and loved on every level. This can cause work but it is well worth it. You obviously have a lot of work to do together but this cannot happen until this fellow has been dealt with. Don't worry about feelings. They will come back if you do the right things. Love is expressed in acts. The right words are acts as well in this instance

I think you need to give her some motivation and hope that things can be different and they can be if you work at it. Hope is vital. Without that our minds are open to rubbish. You need to fix it fast.

What is her love language for instance? People perceive special love in different ways. It can be gifts, touch (not talking about sex here just hugs etc.) words of affirmation, acts of service or quality time. One of those will be her prime love language. Find out what is is and do it. The clue is in how she loves you. We tend to use our own love language instead of the others. One of my boys language is giving gifts but that is no good if your wife is crying out for touch for instance.

Raymond

ps Don't hide your marriage from her relatives. Marriage is an honourable thing and shouldn't be hidden. You have to get positive about your marriage.

smackie9
1st January 2010, 09:05 PM
Raymond sorry to point this out but the poor woman had a hysterectomy, (Removal of the uterus renders the patient unable to bear children). That was no choice of hers.

A hysterectomy is quite devastating to any woman. But there are other choices that can be made like adoption or fostering children.

Unfortunately not enough was done for her mental state to deal with such a tragedy as this.

Dear Mal, Your wife is having an emotional affair with this man. "Just friends" is absolute bs. She is sharing her inner most thoughts, and intimate details about her desires, just like anyone who is dating. This is still considered cheating even though there is no sex involved. It's not OK for her to continue this so called "friendship"

Men and women are different when it comes to having an affair. With men it's sexual, with women it's emotional. But since no sex is involved with an emotional affair they think it's ok......far from it. Why is she doing this? Since she had her hysterectomy she relates that tragedy to you subconsciencly and so she has detached herself emotionally from you. The fella she is "friends" with is her escape from all this.

Raymond is right, this is salvageable and I agree too that you do need to act fast. Seeking couples counseling is spot on. This will enable you both to communicate and work through this tragedy together and build towards a brighter future, which you both deserve.

mal
3rd January 2010, 11:29 PM
Raymond sorry to point this out but the poor woman had a hysterectomy, (Removal of the uterus renders the patient unable to bear children). That was no choice of hers.

A hysterectomy is quite devastating to any woman. But there are other choices that can be made like adoption or fostering children.

Unfortunately not enough was done for her mental state to deal with such a tragedy as this.

Dear Mal, Your wife is having an emotional affair with this man. "Just friends" is absolute bs. She is sharing her inner most thoughts, and intimate details about her desires, just like anyone who is dating. This is still considered cheating even though there is no sex involved. It's not OK for her to continue this so called "friendship"

Men and women are different when it comes to having an affair. With men it's sexual, with women it's emotional. But since no sex is involved with an emotional affair they think it's ok......far from it. Why is she doing this? Since she had her hysterectomy she relates that tragedy to you subconsciencly and so she has detached herself emotionally from you. The fella she is "friends" with is her escape from all this.

Raymond is right, this is salvageable and I agree too that you do need to act fast. Seeking couples counseling is spot on. This will enable you both to communicate and work through this tragedy together and build towards a brighter future, which you both deserve.

Thank you for your help. You are right, the hysterectomy was necessary due to fibroids and yes we were trying for children. Things are not going well. She continues to contact her "friend" and is actually taking a trip to her female friend next weekend. This will make a meeting with the new friend probable. I have told her that if she makes the trip then our relationship is over, that there will be no going back. ~She says that she loves me but cant see a future at the moment. I am trying to get her into counselling and hope that she will call someone in the morning, but I don't see the commitment to do this. I am giving up, I think and trying to move on but pray that she is not making a mistake that she will regret. I love her so much.

Raymond
4th January 2010, 02:09 PM
Raymond sorry to point this out but the poor woman had a hysterectomy, (Removal of the uterus renders the patient unable to bear children). That was no choice of hers.

A hysterectomy is quite devastating to any woman. But there are other choices that can be made like adoption or fostering children.

Unfortunately not enough was done for her mental state to deal with such a tragedy as this.

I stand corrected Smackie. Thank you for pointing this out.

Raymond

Ageing Grace
4th January 2010, 10:40 PM
Smackie, I'm glad you picked up on that! Quite a difference ... men, hey?!:eek:

Mal, here is your problem:just maybe lack of intimacy, I'm usually too busy or disinterested to talk.I'd bet my life it's the reason your sex life went downhill, as well.

I feel you need to get your head around the concept that a marriage is intimacy - without it, you have a partnership not a marriage. You were so "disinterested" you didn't even notice the poor woman was suicidal after a major, life-altering surgery.

It's past time you became less busy and more interested :mad: If you understand me - and think I may have a point - you need to spell this out to her, with full and unreserved remorse, and start getting to know her.


Good luck.