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blip
5th September 2009, 11:01 AM
hi. after about a month of struggling with my feelings i'm resorting to looking online to try and understand what's happened, and why i'm feeling the way i do. i've been reading through some of the threads and haven't seen anything about married dating yet, in fact what i have read makes me feel i don't really have too much of a problem and made me question even further why i'm feeling the way i feel.

about a month ago i was sorting out my mother-in-laws computer, and came across some sites that had been visited......clearly by neither of my in-laws, they can barely turn the comp on! my husband is the only other person that visits (beside myself) that uses it. anyway, one of them was a married dating site. i felt sick, went cold, panicked, didn't know what to do.

so, i confronted him, he admitted he'd joined 6 months ago (it cost £119 per month..........we're struggling to pay our mortgage, that in itself hurt a lot) and then a few months later he'd paid for another months subscription. He promised me, hand on heart, looked me in the eye and swore on his beloved parents lives it hadn't gone further than messages online. i was still devastated, when we got home i realised i couldn't handle him being around and told him to leave. he went back to his parents. they are a really sweet couple and have brought him up well (if a little sheltered) and were completely shocked and devastated when he told them what he'd done.

sooooo......i couldn't sleep that night, and me being me, i couldn't leave it at that, i had to know. i dug about, got into his email, found it his old phone contract was never cancelled, i got into the online account, went back a few months and bingo. hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of texts to the same number over 2 or 3 months. no phone calls, just texts. and as far as i could see (i was in too much of a state to check properly) they were all during work hours. so i called it. after several tries a woman answered, i pretended i was after someone else, she said, no, this is ***********. gotcha. i told her who i was, she was really shocked, i told her i needed to know what happened, she said they met on that website, emailed for a few weeks then started texting. she was adamant there was nothing sexual or even that flirty going on, more like getting to know someone and building a friendship.

my brain just doesn't compute that, why would he pay all that money and be so deceitful just to be friends????

anyway, we talked for a while, she was shocked that i wasn't angry with her, i was so upset i couldn't get angry, anyway, i was on a fact finding mission and i would do my anger later. she said they never ever mentioned me, she just assumed we'd been married forever and he was in the same situation as her, bored and no longer in love.

in actual fact. we had only been married 3 years when he did this, together 6, just bought our first house and had a great life, doing lots of fun things and going to gigs (music is our shared passion) and i thought, had a fabulous and loving relationship. he is extremely loving and cuddles me all the time, tells me he loves me every day, i had no reason to think we weren't blissfully happy.

his profile on that site said, among many other things, he was bored with the way things have become and he wants some excitement. the couple of very close friends i have told were gobsmacked by this, they both said they and their husbands were always so envious of our relationship and the things we did (they both have small kids and can't do all those things, mine are teenagers) and the way we were so loved up and happy.

anyway, after coming off the phone i immediately called my husband and told him i'd just had a nice chat with ************, he was gobsmacked and speechless for several minutes. he eventually also assured me there was nothing sexual, but i was still struggling with the fact that they texted about 50 times a day for a couple of months..........is it just me?? i still don't get that. and he then admitted that he'd met her. he took the afternoon off work and met her in a pub out of town for a drink. he promises nothing happened, they didn't even kiss on the cheek, nothing. i asked why, he said he didn;t find her attractive. of course what i wanted to hear was, he couldn't do that to me, not simply that he didn't find her attractive. i can't help but wonder (obsess) what would have happened if he did find her attractive.........?

so, he stayed at his parents for a couple of weeks while i processed all this and got over the shock, he texted me all the time telling me how sorry he is, we met almost every day to talk (i'm a talker, i believe it helps enormously with the healing process) and after 2 weeks i allowed him to come home, thinking i could deal with it.

but the trust has gone. if it had been a drunken one night stand and not premediated i honestly think i could forgive him much easier. but this was premeditated, cold and calculated.

and this was not the first time, 3 months into our relationship he did something similar. i forgave him thinking he'd learned his lesson and would never ever do that ever again! i now wonder if i should have ended it there and then..........hindsight is a wonderful thing, huh? but we were so loved up, a male friend of mine convinced me it was just harmless flirting and an ego boost and something lots of people do, it's out of his system now..................

so now i'm struggling with so many aspects of this, why he did it, the money he spent (when i work overtime every week so we can do nice things) obviously the texting (during which time he didn;t text me at all saying he was really busy at work and no time to contact me.........up til then he'd at least text me every lunch time to say hey) the meeting, going back and paying for another month........oh, so much in my head.

so that's my sorry story. i'm sure people that may read this (sorry, i went on a bit) are thinking i'm a bit pathetic, it's not like he was actually physically unfaithful etc, but believe me it still hurts, and my head's all over the place.....

so, if anyone feels like giving me a good kick up the backside and telling me to get on with it (which is what i feel i should be doing but can't) or anyone else has been in this situation (or even in the same position as my husband and can shed some light on stuff) go for it! ANY advice gratefully received :-)

j92cool
5th September 2009, 11:44 AM
Oooh dear. I am so sorry to hear of your troubles and can totally understand how you are feeling. I tried to trust agian but couldn't quite manage it. (He left after swearing it was all a stupid mistake on his part and that he really loved me) Not to say that will happen in your case everyone is different. Have you tried councelling?. There are normally deeper issues that need to be dealt with which should come out in couple sessions. Is he truely remorsefull and making a effort to rebuild the trust.

If he is not willing to give 100% to rebuilding trust it may be best to move on. He needs to be willing to allow you to check his phone and computer etc if you want to.

Technology sucks doesn't it. It is just so easy for anyone to stray not that it excuses them. They are weak and should know better.

Keep posting it does help.

I hope it all works out for you. Others may be able to offer more advice about rebuilding trust.

Big hugs. Keep your chin up and be kind to yourself.

JWD
5th September 2009, 12:17 PM
You are not pathetic at all. It has been a horrible, awful shock for you discover what he has been doing. I think you need to try and understand what it was he was looking for or felt lacked in your marriage. Of course this can only come from him and you will need to be prepared to hear some things that will possibly upset you further..

You mustn't blame yourself for any of this no matter what he tells you. He made the choice to do this by himself. Keep posting even just to vent how you're feeling. I hope you can work this out.

huting
5th September 2009, 09:15 PM
this sounds so similar to my recent post, my h was found to be texting a girl lots and spending time with her 2, although he says nothing happened. i too confronted the ow who also confirmed that nothing happened. he said hes not attracted,theyre just friends. etc.

it is really hard to trust after this, it may have not been physical but it is still a betrayal all the same. i was heartbroken when i found out, i shouted at him, i cried, we talked. he said he loved me and she means nothing.

i told him that he his not to see her anymore, and if they are just friends then giving her up should be easy cos he loves me. so i suggest you say to your h to cancel that dating site. if he is bored maybe ou could try and bring a little spice back into the relationship. go on dates agin, wear makeup,something sexy. i guess you need to have the talk of whats wrong.

i check his phone when i can and he did give me access to his email account for a while to so i could see for myself. the trust is gone and im trying to get it back but its hard and it hurts when i think about the messages i read or them. but i chose to forgive him so i have to try.

at the moment i am trying to improve myself in every way possible, focusing a little more on me. hobbies,wearing makeup more etc. he calls me pretty girl, and sexy girl alot more now. we cuddle more and have more sex!

i think the worst in both our situations is that they never told us we caught them, it makes me wonder if more would have happened or it would have continued if i had not intervened......but im trying not to think that way as it makes it worse and i want my marriage to work.

wish you luck and happiness, keep posting. hope i helped a little....do know how you feel xxxx

blip
6th September 2009, 06:56 PM
bless you all for replying, thank you :-)

j92cool & jwd (sorry, a mish mash of a response!) yes, there are deeper issues, we've always known he has 'issues' but he's never done anything about them. until now. after all this happened he finally looked for help, his first session with a therapist is tomorrow morning. he has no idea why, but he has real problems around sex and initiating, sometimes even if i initiate. our sex life is all about quality, definitely not quantity! when it does happen it's fantastic, we have absolutely no problems there!! it's just rarer than a blue moon :-( he says it's been a problem since he first became sexually active, he doesn't know why. his GP has referred him to a psychosexual counseller, not sure if it's linked to his online shenanigans but in a way i hope so, then at least i may find out why he did it, as again, he himself says he doesn't know.

and yes, i am scared about what will come out. terrified. but it's gotta be done.

but yes, he really does appear to be truly sorry, and is making lots of effort to rebuild my trust. but as i said, he did this before, albeit nearly 7 years ago, and once bitten and all that. it's incredibly hard, i guess my defence mechanisms have kicked in and i'm so scared to trust him again because i'm so scared of being so hurt again. i always believe in giving people a chance if they screw up, but to do it again...............

anyway, i've always had access to his phone - hence why he used a different secret one and i've always known his email password - hence why he opened a new secret email account). yes, technology does suck :-( he did his profile, paid, trawled for women etc, all on his phone (except the one time at his mum's!)

i've asked over and over what is lacking in our marriage for him to have done that, he insists nothing, he loves me, is 'in love' with me, fancies me, i'm his best friend, he loves that we do stuff together (we do go on dates, and sometimes on the way home i'll maybe accidentally drive the wrong way and end up down a dark, quiet country lane..........) but he still gets his 'boys' time (i.e today he's off paint balling). He says he's as confused as me why he felt the need. But he said that the first time too. Hence why I find it so hard to trust again, it's not like i can put anything wrong, right :-(

huting - how did your husband meet this other girl? did he go looking or was it someone he already knew? you're right, it is a betrayal, just knowing for all that time he was thinking about her all the time. it turns my stomach. we went on a fantastic holiday of a lifetime while this was happening, now when i look at the pictures it feels tainted, i can't help wonder if he was still texting her, thinking about her. i haven't asked, i don't think i want to know. i know enough.

how long ago did this happen? in my case it was a month today. i'm wondering when it stops being in your head all the time :-(

and yes, you're right, if i had found out long after he'd realised what an a*se he was being and had stopped, it may not be this hard, but same as you, i wonder (allt he time) how far it would have gone if i hadn't found out.........

writing all this down really does help. reading it back also helps, i guess half the battle is accepting what happened. thanks for all your support :-)

blip x

ps. he tried to cancel that dating site straight away. he tried for several days, kept emailing and they ignored him. so i then emailed them from his account pretending i was him, told them if they didn't remove the profile within 24 hours i would 'out' all the details about every single person i had any contact with during that time from their website, on facebook, twitter and myspace. within 10 minutes they'd emailed back to say it had been cancelled and deleted :-D unscrupulous b*st*rds.

Raymond
7th September 2009, 09:05 AM
Wow well done Blip. Where there is a will there is a way.

I think in the future he has to be willing to be far more accountable to you if he cannot even trust himself. It's going to take a bit of time before your trust is restored bu that is up to him.

Raymond