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cocolino
10th April 2008, 01:52 PM
Hello. Firstly I want to I thank everyone who finds the time and generosity to read my lines and try and give me a piece of advice. I apologise for the length of my message, but I guess my situation is really complicated. I've been married for ONLY 7 months (there are almost two years since we've been living together). No kids yet. After 2 months since moving to live with him, I noticed a significant relaxation in our sexual life. I also found every week in the laundry basket towels or other pieces of clothing smelling so specifically (you guessed) and I was wondering whether my nose plays tricks on me.
Whilst at the beginning of our relationship the sex was very good, gradually he started to neglect me in bed. One day it occurred to me to check the computer... I discovered he was watching porn on it and masturbating after I was going to bed, every 2-3 nights! I was shocked, appalled, scared, confused, sick! When I told him that I discovered what he's doing, first time he said he was very sorry, he blushed and promised he won't do it again. I started to think I don't know him at all. I got depressive, needed to go to doctor and take anti-depressant treatment.
But he did it again after a short while, this time hiding 'better' the traces of his 'sins'. I caught him, just checking a bit deeper the 'application history' on the computer. When I brought it up again, asking him why is he getting away with it knowing this hurts me so much and insults my dignity, he denied. But then when I showed him the evidence. He got mad, very disruptive, he threw around and broke a few objects in the house, shouting, screaming, like a mad animal. Eventually he admitted he still had watched, but added: 'So what, what harm does it to you? You shouldn't feel hurt by it, it's not a crime what I am doing!!'. Can you believe it?! He didn't even felt ashamed any longer.
Then he refined more and more his methods of cheating on me with his porn videos, but so did I with tracing them down. The horror went on and on, culminating one day, when I came back home from shopping (he had been alone for a few hours) and I found in the kitchen sink a mug - while trying to wash it up, I sensed a funny smell. Well, believe it or not, it was sperm in it. I can't describe how sick and disgusted I felt. I thought he's a monster, a heartless and shameless animal. An enemy, not my fiance (at the time).
He continued lying to me. Every time when I asked him whether he stopped doing 'the bad thing', he swore he didn't any more. He lied with so much serenity! I felt so betrayed, so humiliated, so deceived. After six months of nightmare, I simply couldn't bare the fact he was constantly 'replacing' me with all those sluts doing devious things in his porn videos, instead of enjoying a normal, harmonious sex life with me, a normal woman loving him. I decided to tell about his scandalous habits to his parents. They were shocked. His father talked to him, telling him off, saying to him he's lose me if he went on with it. It was a critical time. For a couple of days we were like two ghosts living under the same roof, he hardly talked to each other (he is a very introvert, silent, not really communicative person anyway). This time the 'wonder' lasted longer. After all his promises, I believed him. I REALLY thought he was cured by abstinence (=not watching that crap for a longer while) and that he's doing it for my sake. We got married. I was so hopeful. I thought the past is only a bad dream. But then I discovered he had watched porn and masturbated in my absence again - it took him only a month and a half after our wedding. My trust was seriously breached. I got depressive again, the same ordeal. The communication between us was affected. Making love occurred more and more rarely. His performance poorer, so on and so forth. I am an emotional mess. I entered his life looking like a flower. Now, after less than 2 yrs living with him, I look 10 years older, tired, sad, I put on weight because I found the 'refuge' from stress in eating, my general health deteriorated. But I have to stress something - I am a very clean woman, I always smell good, I have a neat appearance. I also am a very good housekeeper, my house is clean and tidy I am a very keen cook. So he should appreciate all this. But it looks he doesn't care too much...

I only talked to my parents about my husband's behaviour. They both, but especially my father, were so angry and disgusted when found out about his sick deviation with watching porn! My father would rather see me leaving him.

I don't know why, I still love my husband. After every argument and row, when things cool, he says he loves me. But to me, this nightmarish relationship seems to fade and die every day. But I know that somewhere behind his reassuring smile he lies and he'll do it again. I am so unhappy, feel so humiliated, lied in my face, fooled. Please help me! Cocolino

kyalan
10th April 2008, 02:18 PM
Hi Cocolino,

Has the sex dried up because of his "cheating" with the pornography?

Or is he spending more time masturbating than having sex with you?

To be honest, I can tell you names and addresses of people (men and women) who are married/in relationships who still masturbate every night - yes, every night!!

This isn't a 'sin' or even something he should feel ashamed about - it's a perfectly natural thing to do for both men and women

Are you p*ssed off that he's doing it after you've gone to bed?

He may have a high sex drive and need to watch porn to help get him aroused?
Or he may like watching porn for inspiration?
Have you tried watching it with him? Does it do anything for you?
Have you tried having sex whilst porn is on in the background? He may enjoy that....

One thing I don't agree with is the constant....what shall we call it...."smelly substance" he seems to want to leave everywhere - can't he do it in the bath/shower or somewhere it can be disposed of cleanly?

And as for doing it in a mug - the dirty b*stard!!!

Sounds like he needs a healthier diet aswell if his semen smells that badly you can smell it on bath towels etc.,

Let me know how it goes

Kyalan :confused:

cocolino
10th April 2008, 03:04 PM
Thank you for your thoughts. On the contrary, he doesn't seem to have a proper sex drive, he's rather trying to force himself, I guess, to get more desire... And I also want to to clarify something: he doesn't watch it in order to get inspiration or to get aroused for me, no!! He is just acting as a selfish bastard who only wants to satisfy himself, he doesn't do this so that he can then come to me more hungry for sex or 'virile', unfortunately...
To answer your questions, no, he doesn't leave semen everywhere, only on towels and, by accident, in that mug. It's just that I am quite observant and I just happened to find traces... Recently, he started to use the kitchen roll paper for hiding the traces. And I just noticed we get run of them more quicker than normal. Then I started to leave small signs (for instance,folding/creasing a small edge of it etc.) after leaving him home alone and when I came back I noticed he used a few pieces - and obviously not for kitchen/cooking purposes - he hardly ever cooks. It's so degrading and sad he turned me into a detective... As for the smell, I have a good nose and maybe that's my fault, what can I do?
But I'll never try and get stimulation with/ without him by watching porn. I am a perfectly normal woman, with normal needs and desires. My sexual drive is natural, I don't need artificial surrogates to get myself aroused, sorry! I am still waiting for your opinions and suggestions, if you have new ones... Thank you very much.

kyalan
10th April 2008, 03:53 PM
He is just acting as a selfish bastard who only wants to satisfy himself
can't argue with that statement

To answer your questions, no, he doesn't leave semen everywhere, only on towels and, by accident, in that mug. well, tell him to stop leaving it on the towels, and how the hell can yopu get semen in a mug by "accident"?

But I'll never try and get stimulation with/ without him by watching porn. I am a perfectly normal woman, with normal needs and desires. not saying you aren't, but I am saying HE might get off on this - we all have different sexual needs/desires

My sexual drive is natural, I don't need artificial surrogates to get myself aroused, sorry! - I'd agree with you there, I don't care much for the art of masturbation myself....nor do I watch pornography, however, if that's what people want to do, then it's their own choice

Have you sat him down and really explained how it affects you mentally?
Does he care that it affects you?

Or is there a comprimise? I.E, he only do it with your acceptance or after your sex life comes first?

Kyalan

cocolino
10th April 2008, 05:31 PM
Al right, I'll try to make myself clearer:
1. I explained to him more than I can recall, aka many, many,many times, with calmness, kindness, human understanding and whatever it takes, telling him that what he's doing affects me emotionally very badly, hurts me, insults my dignity and offends my womanhood. I begged him not to do this to me any longer. He knows very well that this habit of his simply triggers horrible depression in me, very low self-esteem, emotional trauma and so on and so forth. He knows this makes me suffer excruciatingly. He promised but every time broke his promises and breached my trust. But he added each time that I shouldn't feel hurt, because what's he's doing is not so serious, ''it doesn't mean anything really'', doesn't mean he doesn't love me (his words). He simply can't get in his head that his habit is very harmful to our relationship.
2. There is no compromise between what he watching porn and our sexual life, that, by the way, became almost non-existent (it occurs, and only if I 'push' and 'try' and 'pull his sleeve', approximately once in a month or three weeks. I feel so humiliated for having to ask and beg my own husband for sex, when this desire should come naturally, from both partners, out of non-conditional desire, joy, shared feelings and love! I feel like acting in a farce staged by him. My heart is so bitter. So, for short, he neglects me grossly!!!! He never had my acceptance for such a behaviour and he never watched porn as a prelude for our sexual life (and even if he had done it, I wouldn't have felt right). Don't you understand? He completely replaces me and our sexual life with porn watching.
Do you reckon for someone who's 35 y.o. (me) and respectively 37 y.o. (him), after only 7 months of marriage and less than two years of life together, such poor sexual life is something normal?
Thank you for your replies. I appreciate very much that you took time to answer to me and I still wait for a piece of advice...
P.S. Are you a man or a woman? Did you experience something similar? Sorry if my questions are too indiscreet.

Raymond
10th April 2008, 06:48 PM
Cocolino I already replied on your other thread, so I will be brief. This subject has been well aired on this site if you look around. It is really like a mental adultery and it doesn't increase ones sex drive with ones wife, rather it destroys the intimacy which you may have. In fact the sex drive is being diverted into porn and the things happening on it. I'm seeing this again and again. It can be addictive in the wrong way and I really suspect your husband was into it long before he went with you by the hold it has on him. This is apparent through the anger he has when you broach the subject. As a man I know that this affects the intimacy one has with their wife because in reality you are being intimate with women on the screen although there is no relationship with them, only in fantasy land.

If he is going to get help he must really want it as he sounds addicted. People think it spices up their sex life when in fact it destroys it as you are finding out. Most men know it's wrong deep down but a lot try and justify it.

Raymond

Alice Alice
10th April 2008, 08:31 PM
Dear Cocolino

I wish i was you....i'm in the same situation but i have a baby....i really wish i was you right now...i would get out...my husband has the lowest self esteem he holds nothing sacred...he acts like he is the victim and in many ways he is but i need to laugh i need to have some kind of level of intimacy its not sex that i crave now (even though i would love to be swept off my feet) i crave a intimate conversation i feel that i am to be seen and not heard and not seen that often either he goes off to another room most days just to sit all alone ...???

GET OUT!!!!

you can still get counseling with him without living in the same house with him

i'm getting some kind of leeway with my husband these days but its such a struggle and the past few days have been exhausting...to top it all off we were to go to church this sunday but a friend of his asked him to work (a side job he is a carpenter) and now i'm alone for the weekend most of the day and i wanted to have family time its just one thing after the other.

my relationship is so fragile that any outside influence throws it up in the air and i have to rebuild schedules plans around him.
My baby needs a family not a man who is never there and a woman who is so serious about everything and becomes engulfed in her crappy marriage

i still have hope things will work out with my family despite all i have said...but i still wish i was you.

Raymond is so wonderful listen to his insight

cocolino
11th April 2008, 11:35 AM
To Alice (and not only):
Thank you so much for sharing your horrid experience,somewhat similar to mine.
Well, my situation is not as easy as it appears at a first sight. We don't have kids, right. But I left my country, my parents, my friends and a successful career in order to come, live with and marry him, so I am not 'on my territory'. Maybe it was a huge mistake to do this. He was sly, he knew how to attract me - his courtship was impeccable, during that period his behaviour was faultless. So he convinced me he's the one, otherwise I wouldn't have left everything and put my life in his hands. Now here I am, stuck in this almost nightmarish marriage, with only a freelance job, which is on and off, not much income at all. I keep applying for jobs but I couldn't find. Most of the employers say to me I am overqualified. So from a very successful career woman I became a housekeeper - but at least it's good to have a tidy, clean house, I cook, do various domestic chores. There's nothing wrong with being a housekeeper. I only say that I sacrificed a great career and so far I don't seem to be given too many chances to reach the same status here, in the U.K. So financially I am now partially depending on him, on his earnings. That's another drawback... I have never depended financially on anyone before, I used to earn enough money on my own, I was a strong, independent woman. My husband managed to reduce me in short time to a needy wife, sexually neglected, emotionally abused and humiliated, jobless, depersonalised... If I get out of this relationship, I'll have to go back to my country covered in shame, defeated, having to answer uncomfortable questions about my personal failure... and the problem is I am quite a public person there...

cocolino
14th April 2008, 10:37 AM
Dear Raymond, Kyalan and Alice Alice,
Thank you so much for your replies, they really made me think and I shall be soon ready to take a decision. I felt your compassion, empathy and the desire to help. I am grateful for your non-conditional friendship - I think I don't exaggerate, this really is what only good friends do when someone's in trouble...
You're all right, either he confronts his addiction, admits it's wrong and unfair what he's doing to me, to us, or I leave. There cannot be any half measure in this matter -because this would mean compromising my own dignity and the chances of happiness and fulfilment through a normal life.
I wish I could give you a hug and looked into your eyes.
I know you're there, you breath, you laugh, you cry, go to work, have families, try and lead a normal life, you struggle to be good to you and to the others. I feel like we're almost a family - no one related, though so much share of feelings, thoughts and emotions. THANK YOU for being. TOGETHER. With gratitude, Cocolino