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fluffer
8th April 2007, 02:25 PM
Hi I'm just trying to get a fresh angle on my unhappy marriage.
I met my husband 5 years ago on holiday, we had a real whirl wind romance. From the moment I saw him I knew we would have somthing together. After 3 months of blissfull happyness like I'd never felt before, I found out I was pregnant. I knew it was an accident but I could'nt stop smileing all over my face, I was 29 at the time. When I told him he was less than happy. He accused me of trying to trap him?? Not like he had anything. I really felt that I had to choose between him and my baby. So I chose him and had a termination. It feels like the biggest mistake and I regret it every day. We stayed together and after 8 months I had to go home from my extended holiday, but he did'nt want to come with me so I left him there and he stayed for another 4 months. He was'nt the best at keeping in touch but I e-mailed him all the time. After 4 months he had a byke accident and seriously injured himself, so I got on a plane and ran to his side, he was in India. I payed for him to stay in a nice hotel, when I arrived he was staying in a dirty horrible room with no windows, because he had no money. I nursed him back to health his family in Israel did nothing. I put him on a plane and sent him home to his mum.
After I got home we kept in touch and he told me he wanted to come to England to be with me. He could only get a tourist visa but said it did'nt matter as he could get work anyway. I ended up supporting him for more or less the full year, and it put so much strain on me I don't know how I got through it. In this time I really went off sex, because basically it only seemed to be about his fullfillment. He just dosen't know how to touch me and dosn't seem to be bothered if I get off or not. If I didn't want to have sex he'd tell me that I was gay and make out like it's a joke. It's not funny. At the end of his tourist visa we had talked about marriage but he never proposed he just said in an argument "well are we gonna get married or not?" and I felt like if I didn't agree I would never see him again. I wasen't ready to end the relationship I was so bessotted with him I couldn't just let him walk out of my life.

So we got married. In the registry office. It was horrible. We went there on the bus, and I payed for everything even the clothes he stood up in. I haven't got an engagment ring, and we didn't have a reception just went to a bar. Dosen't exactly make me feel special, but I just thought at the time I love him all that sfuff's not important.!
4 days later his visa was up and he had to leave the country.! I just fell to pieces, I was having panic attacks, I had to move out of the place we shared together and my head was well and truely up my rear end. After 3 weeks he tried to reenter the country on another tourist visa but was refused, this was so traumatic for me. He never suggested that I come to Israel to stay with him it's always been his plan to come and live here. He didn't get a visa sorted he kind of expected me to do it, but I couldn't. He smoked alot of dope at the time and never got off his arse.

After 6 months apart he finally relented and let me come over there to live but I couldn't speak the laungage so couldn't work. I didn't have any money and would have taken classes if I could. He was always very impatient with me so I found it hard to learn from him, he'd get anoyed when I asked him what this and that means all the time. After 4 months he said he couldn't afford to keep me anymore and sent me back to the uk to save money to get him a visa. He just expected me to magic the money from nowere. When I got back I was homeless and had to stay in a B+B it was horrible, but he still expected me to magic over a thousand pounds for a deposit on a place. After the first three weeks he really started putting pressure on me, but I had dental problems and spent the money I had saved on that, wich he resented, but what could I do I was in alot of pain.
He stayed were he was for another 10 months befor I managed to get sorted with a place wich I shared with a friend. He was accusing me the whole time of cheating and allsorts. He didn't speak to me for over a month at one point (over christmas) and I really thought our relationship was over just like that. When he called me I was compleatly hysterical.

So he came back to the uk, with the correct visa and work permit and lived with me in the house I shared with my friend. Again he didn't go to work for 4 months. I was working 12 hour shifts out of the house for 16 hours a day while he sat around at home smokeing weed, that I had payed for. I'd get home and he'd do nothing but moan about the house, my friend he didn't like and her kids he hated. I felt ashamed he said some horrible things and in the end we had to move out.

Now we're in our own place. I was unemployed for 3 weeks but now I'm back at work. His mother lent us the money for the deposit, so everytime he gets in a mood he threatens to throw me out on the street. Our sex life is rubbish because he just cares about himself, I'v only had 2 orgasms in all the time I'v known him. He only seems inerested in penitration. I'v tried to talk to him about it but he said it's me with the problem. He told me last night that I'v never satisfied him and he dosen't fancy me.
He said I don't turn him on and he wants me to be like the women in his many porn films. He dosen't like any body hair and said its a turn off but I'm quite hairy I shave but not every day. He also only wants anal sex without any lube and said I'm boreing for not enjoying this.
I was sick just befor christmas and had to got to hospital for an opperation, and he was horrible, he didn't even want to take me to the doctors when I told him I was in alot of pain for over a week. that would meen getting out of bed at 9am. He neglected me when I was disscharged. I wasen't capable of getting myself food and he didn't bother getting out of bed till after 2 pm so I starved, and I was Ill for alot longer.
Please give me your opinions my mind is so confused. I love this man but I don't think he's ever loved me.

callow
8th April 2007, 04:56 PM
This "man" has no regard for you and by the sound of your story never has. My opinion in that you should leave him. I don't think he will ever change. I know you say you love him, but if you have any respect for yourself you will not put up with his behaviour. Love is a very addictive emotion and it will take a while but you will be released from the bonds you have. Then you will find someone who will treat you with true love and respect that you deserve.

Take care

Sally

Hopeful0788
8th April 2007, 05:48 PM
I am sorry that you are going through these things. From the sound of your marriage, you don't really have one. He is only using you to take care of him, which you are obliging. There are some good websites that talk about emotional detachment and codependency that another user on here gave me. I think it would be helpful if you googled these terms and did some reading. Also there is a good book that is helping me called Addiction to Love: Overcoming Obsession and Dependency in Relationships” by Susan Peabody. Good luck and keep posting. We are here to help you through this. ;)

mutiny08
8th April 2007, 06:13 PM
holy crap (excuse my language). i have to say... from what you've said... this guy seems like a complete deadbeat. 2 orgasms in the whole time you've known eachother, anal sex WITHOUT lube and he says YOU'VE got the problem? Send the guy packin' (or wateva), and move on. By the sounds of it, you're a nice person and i think you'll definately be able to find someone better.

fluffer
9th April 2007, 06:31 PM
Hey everyone,
Thanks so much for your responses, it really helps to have another point of view. I'll be looking up those things on google thanks Hopeful.
I had a big talk to him yesterday, and he did admit to being a pig and without me prompting him. But to be honest I can't help thinking he's just saying what he thinks I want to hear.? I do realise he needs me alot more than I need him. He's asked me to give him another chance, and said he's going to change. Can people really change though? I don't know. I suppose I am giving him a chance, because I'm still there, but I have been looking into getting a job in another part of the country in case it dos'nt work out. I'm really at the end of my rope with this relationship, and I don't want to stick around if this is how it's going to continue. I just want to be happy. Thanks very much Sally,Hopeful and mutiny you all sound really nice, and it really helps to know someone out there cares, it really helps

mutiny08
9th April 2007, 06:45 PM
If you're going to give him a chance, make sure he REALLY understands that this is it. if he blows it (at any time), its over. no lookin' back.

When i read "I do realise he needs me alot more than I need him." it made me wonder a few things... does this mean romantically, financially, physically, spiritually(?), All of the above? It made me sort of think that perhaps you're already half set on it going under and that part of you thinks you're probably better off just leaving anyway.

I (being the sort of person that believes that theres actually some good in people (whether thats good or not is another question)), would probably say give him a chance. Set yourself a time frame and stick to it. if he blows it, walk away. If it seems he really is changing and you've marked off your "allotted" time on the calender, keep pushing it back a little further (in intervals) until its been perhaps a year, then judge if you think he has changed or not.

I wish the best for you. Good luck :)

Hopeful0788
9th April 2007, 08:14 PM
Fluffer,

I too alot like you in the fact that I feel like my h needs me more than I need him (although I will definately say I need him emotionally). I can support myself and my children on my own but he provides companionship (emotional and sexual) for me that I can't give myself. However, at some point you have to really evaluate if what ever your h does for you you could get somewere else and be happy or if there is something worth staying for.

I agree with Mutiny and the time frame thing 100%. Here is what I have done for my own sanity for my situation. Maybe this will help. The only way I have been able to make things work is by setting myself a date to say if things are not better or have not changed, that's it. For me, this was 3 months. I got a personal calendar and wrote in bright red letters on the date - D DAY. D being for decision, not divorce. Then each day that goes by I put a check mark on the day if it was a mostly good day or an x if it was mostly a bad day.

My husband has said in the past he was going to change. It usually only lasted for 2 months before the next big problem. This is why I chose 3 months as an evaluation time frame. At the end of my 3 months, I will look at my calendar to see if there have been more good days then bad days and make a decision based on that.

This has also been helpful for me to remember when it is a bad day that not everyday is bad because I can see the check marks and that when I am having a bad day it just seems like they have all been bad.

Baby steps is all I can say....
Good luck and hugs.

David H
22nd April 2007, 09:28 AM
Also there is a good book that is helping me called Addiction to Love: Overcoming Obsession and Dependency in Relationships” by Susan Peabody. Good luck and keep posting. We are here to help you through this. ;)

Yes, I have that book and it was a revelation to me. Especially the chapter on recovery and it allowed me to realise that I (as a codependent) had been in a relationship with someone who was mildly narcissistic which is the most toxic combination to have. That explained a great deal in my 18-year relationship and was a turning point for me.

David

Codependency:
http://www.50connect.co.uk/50c/romancestories.asp?article=12527

"Relationships heal when individuals heal. When each partner does their Inner Bonding work, their relationship system heals. When each person learns to take full personal responsibility for his or her own feelings of pain and joy, they stop pulling on each other and blaming each other. When each person learns to fill themselves with love and share that love with each other, instead of always trying to get love, the relationship heals."

Learn to love yourself:

"Real love is based in a universal truth that NO ONE can love you, respect you, cherish, or adore you at a level greater than you do these things for yourself. That the amount that you do love, respect, cherish and adore yourself is exactly the level that another will love, respect, cherish and adore you."

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t113131/
http://www.4therapy.com/consumer/life_topics/article/6713/489/Learning+To+Love+Yourself

"The best relationships are made of wanting to be with the other person, but not needing to be. I think that goes for married relationships, too."

http://joy2meu.com/codependency1.html
http://joy2meu.com/codependent3.htm
http://karenscoda.blogspot.com/2007/03/more-characteristics.html

Do you recognise this ("Blowing hot and cold") in your relationship? (Mine was like this!)

"The way the dynamic in a dysfunctional relationship works is in a "come here" - "go away" cycle. When one person is available the other tends to pull away. If the first person becomes unavailable the other comes back and pleads to be let back in. When the first becomes available again then the other eventually starts pulling away again. It happens because our relationship with self is not healed. As long as I do not love myself then there must be something wrong with someone who loves me - and if someone doesn't love me than I have to prove I am worthy by winning that person back."

http://joy2meu.com/codependent4.htm
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You may eventually have to do "a 180" for your own sanity (to allow yourself to heal):
http://survivinginfidelity.com/healing_library/divorce/no_contact.asp
http://survivinginfidelity.com/faq_bs.asp#FAQ11
http://www.divorcerecovery101.com/addiction.htm
You may also need to detach emotionally:
This is a good place to start understanding detachment:
http://www.coping.org/control/detach.htm
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Many codependents are mutually attracted to narcissists...
More on Narcissists:
http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/personality_disorders/narcissism/faq6.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/FAQ/1804
http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/personality_disorders/narcissism/faq_index.html