A love poem by Me

[Springheeled Jack]

When we met by Jack

When we met,
You made my life brighter,
My day filled with sunshine,
That shone from the smile from my face.

When you kissed me,,
You made my heart beat that little bit faster,
My pulse race that little bit more,
Because you made me feel that special,

When we met,
Butterflies bungy jumped in my stomach,
I floated off the ground,
I couldn’t believe someone like you wanted someone like me.

When you put your arms around me,
I thanked what ever was looking over me,
For answering my prayers.
For sending you to me.

When we met,
A fire burned within me,
Warming up a soul,
That sat shivering in the dark.

When you kissed me,
That fire burned brighter,
It wont go out even for a second,
It will always burn for you.

When I saw you,
A smile would dance around my face,
When I see you now
A smile holds out its arms wanting a hug.

When we made love,
I made a promise that I will always be true to you,
I will love you always,
What ever difficulties we have,that we would face them together.


I know things are difficult,
I know things should be better than what they are,
Ive no intention of giving up on us,
My love for you is as strong as it ever was,
It’s yours and always has been,
Just hold out your arms… and take it.

[Springheeled Jack]

Should I give this to my wife? I havent yet. I just want her to see how much I love her despite the difficulties we are having.

[London]

SphJ - Its a nice poem but INMO, i think it's a little much to give to her at this point. You'll be putting way too much pressure on her especially given that right now, your "love" for her is not reciprocated by her towards you. You can show her you love her in other ways, but giving her the poem (as nice a gesture as it may be) comes across as very passive aggressive.

[Springheeled Jack]

So what else do I do? Explain what passive agressive is.

Im running out of options. I wrote this poem to "repciprocate" my love for my wife. To let her kmow how much I love herI acknoledge that things are not quite right between us and that despite our problems I wont give up on us.

Ive never lost my love for her even though she isnt showing love for me. Hoping that when she reads it, she will know. MY fear is that she will just say "yeah nice" and toss it aside. At least Ive tried.

[London]

So what else do I do? Explain what passive agressive is.

Im running out of options. I wrote this poem to "repciprocate" my love for my wife. To let her kmow how much I love herI acknoledge that things are not quite right between us and that despite our problems I wont give up on us.

Ive never lost my love for her even though she isnt showing love for me. Hoping that when she reads it, she will know. MY fear is that she will just say "yeah nice" and toss it aside. At least Ive tried.

Look, you are free to do whatever you want - you asked our opinions, not "permission". So, if you feel like giving her the poem, go for it. I was just giving my opinion....

As far as explaining what passive aggressive is - you know how to use the Internet, look it up. You can get a far better explanation from the "experts" than from me.....

DO let us know what

[Springheeled Jack]

Ill let you know how I get on, but my money is on my wife saying "yeah nice" and toss it aside.

I was asking advice that true, and I will give it to her, I mean Ive tried everything else. I cant make it any worse can I. I just wanted to rekindle the spark in my Wife.

I do value all the opinions I get London.

[London]

Ill let you know how I get on, but my money is on my wife saying "yeah nice" and toss it aside.



Is that your way of punishing yourself then? If you know she'll do that (and i'm in agreement there - see my reasons above why), then why will you give it to her? Is that so you can say you "tried"? That doesn't count towards trying... it counts towrds aiding and abetting the demise even further.

[helenrw200]

It's hard to say how your wife will rwact as I don't know her, but for my part, if someone I was feeling unsure of gave that poem to me, I think I'd feel pressured and inclined to back off a little more. If she is struggling with her feelings, having you declare your eternal love in this way on paper may not help. But it's up to you of course, and if it's a last ditch, nothing to lose attempt, then I guess it's worth a try.......

Helen

[Springheeled Jack]

Well, guys,I gave the poem to her. I hear what you are saying. I just wanted to show her how much she means to me.

I need not have bothered. I was right. All she did was say "Nice....Thanks". I thought "was that it, I put my heart and soul in to writing that and all I get was that it was NICE!!!!!" To say I was disappointed is an understatment.

Now I really dont know what to do. Do I just let things get worse, or attempt to get things better. This is so hard. I love my wife, I dont understand how she can change that drastically.

She'll leave, may be not now, but she ll leave me. I am at a loss. My marriage is crumbling. It's been well over a month since we last made love, she doesnt come near me or makes any attempt to. She snaps at me some times for no reason. There is no talking to her sometimes.

To think I defended her to my parents who didnt like her. I defended her, my parents didnt speak to me for three years because of her.

It has crossed my mind that she is having or going to have an affair. After all it would explain her actions.

[Philzeee]

That has brought a tear to my eyes, it is beutifull. I woulkd love to send it to my wife but it would upset her aswell. It is so true with my feelings aswell.

[Springheeled Jack]

Philzee, thank you for your compliment, I though I was the only one.

If you want to sent it to your wife be my guest. I would be interested to hear what she thought of it.

I dont know what else I can try my friend. It is breaking my heart the way my wife is treating me.

I hope you can sort things out with your wife, as I hope I can. Im desperately in love with my wife but she is treating me like nothing.

Im at a loss to know what to try next....

[Philzeee]

I have just sent the guy who had the affair with wife, warning him that i will ruin his career in the police force if he stays in the area. He text back saying he will deleat her number and stay well clear of the area and her. I also kept ringing him to hear how worried he sounded. I did not talk just listned. I feel much better now.

[Springheeled Jack]

I wish the very best for you Philzee. Put all your efforts to getting your marriage back on track and learn from this.

Hopefully I can get my marriage back to gether too.

Jack

[London]

I have just sent the guy who had the affair with wife, warning him that i will ruin his career in the police force if he stays in the area. He text back saying he will deleat her number and stay well clear of the area and her. I also kept ringing him to hear how worried he sounded. I did not talk just listned. I feel much better now.

Yes - that will really help the state of your marriage - threatening another guy. Did you ever think that the reason your wife had the affair was becuase on some level neither of you could deliver to the other what was promised? The OM was not responsible for the short-comings in your marriage and your actions speak volumes about the kind of man you really are.....

[London]

Well, guys,I gave the poem to her. I hear what you are saying. I just wanted to show her how much she means to me.

I need not have bothered. I was right. All she did was say "Nice....Thanks". I thought "was that it, I put my heart and soul in to writing that and all I get was that it was NICE!!!!!" To say I was disappointed is an understatment.

Now I really dont know what to do. Do I just let things get worse, or attempt to get things better. This is so hard. I love my wife, I dont understand how she can change that drastically.

She'll leave, may be not now, but she ll leave me. I am at a loss. My marriage is crumbling. It's been well over a month since we last made love, she doesnt come near me or makes any attempt to. She snaps at me some times for no reason. There is no talking to her sometimes.

To think I defended her to my parents who didnt like her. I defended her, my parents didnt speak to me for three years because of her.

It has crossed my mind that she is having or going to have an affair. After all it would explain her actions.

Congrats - you gave her the poem despite warnings from posters and yourself... and you still say you are disappointed? You knew you were going to get that reaction. Not only that but you know - definitely now that your wife has NO MORE FEELINGS for you - afterall, you gave her something with all your "heart and soul" - and she "rejected" you.

So now what? How about tracking her every movement with one of those GPS units, or start analysing where she pulls money out of ATM machines. How about logging in as her to check who she calls on her mobile - oh wait a minute, you probably did all of that....

Either way, good luck......

[Springheeled Jack]

London. I did nothing of the sort. Im not about to tracking her movements etc etc.

Well, yesterday she told me that our marriage wasnt working and that THERE WAS someone else. So yes, London you can say you told me so!!

Of course everything was all my fault according to her. This is coming from someone who told seven membersof my family that she can wait have children after we were marriage and as soon as the ring is on her finger she tells me she will abort the child.

So yes London, I gave the woman I love more than anything in the world a love poem, a simple love poem. What is so terrible about that.

Oh yeah, I knew at the backof my mind I was going to get that reaction, I HOPED I was wrong. I wasnt. It wasnt that you all were right, you were. The sad thing was that I was wrong.

So now I have to watch my marriage fall apart. The woman I love walk out the door.

What is left for me. You London can puff your self up with satisfaction and think "well, I told 'im and he wouldnt listen to me, and no he's gone and done it. Yup I told 'im"

Well. You told me, I didnt listen, and now Im suffering the consequenses.

Have a good laugh.

[jools]

From the woman's perspective, I agree with Helen. If I had a love poem from someone that I was feeling unsure of I would feel totally pressurised and move away even more. Also, it seems a very desperate act in the circumstances (which I am sure would reflect how you are presently feeling). The trouble is that desperation is a VERY unattractive thing. While you might feel that way it is the last emotion that you should be showing. That is why a love poem is not what she wants to see and it will not have the desired effect.

I just read your last entry (I wrote the above before I had). Sorry for what's happened. But I would still advise you to not show your desperation.
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[Angel]

my heart goes out to you springheeled jack - it is a difficult position to be in - i have been there - torn between telling the one you love how you feel because you desperately want them to know you care, but also trying to balance that against not seeming too desperate as to scare them away and push them elsewhere. you did what you thought was the best thing to do - i am a strong believer in being true to yourself, unfortualtey it has not had the outcome you'd hoped, but you can be safe in the knowledge, you are a man who has the ability to feel love and to give love and fight for what he believes in. i wish more men were like u. all the best. i hope things work out for you. xx

[Springheeled Jack]

Thanks Angel.

I feel so numb at the momment. I'll fight to try and keep my wife, but Im fighting a losing battle.

Jools it wasnt desperation, I love my wife and I gave her a love poem. Whenshe dropped the bomb shell, yes, I cried, yes I pleaded. I saw nothing. So that has to stop. I cant think of anything else that I can do now. Except wait for the inevitable momment when she walks through the door.

I cant and wont be able to bear that. I will have to be else where. It is cold, callous and extremely cruel to expect that of me. I wont go running after her, or be an idiot by pestering her. Im not that sort of bloke, Im not like that.

I didnt think that she would do this to me, after all we've been through.....

I hope things work out for me too Angel, I really do. thank you for your kind words.

Jack

[London]

springheeled jack - I wasn't saying it as a "told you so" but more trying to alert you that givingher the poem would be a mistake because of the emotions involved -

1. If she was still debating inside herself about you - then it would come across as undue pressure and ,

2. if she had decided it was over then giving her the poem would have her reacting the way she did - ie "that's nice"

I am sorry that your marriage is over. But at least now you can turn to figuring out what YOU need to do to carry on with your life. Your wife has known inside her for a while and has clearly moved on.

Best of luck mate...

[Springheeled Jack]

Thanks London Im going to need all the luck I can get.

[helenrw200]

Jack

I am so sorry that your wife reacted the way she did to your poem, as your words obviously came from the heart, I fear her reaction was born from her embarrassment at being unable to return the feelings you obviously have .

At least now you have answers and can begin to move forward after being on a knife edge for so long, having one's love rebuffed is probably the most painful emotion one can feel, it cuts to the quick and you feel that you can never recover, but you do and you will.

Keep fighting for her if you think there is a chance, but retain your dignity, it may not feel as if it matters now but believe me it will in the future, I speak from bitter experience.

Helen

[disbelief]

Hi Jack,

I too have felt the same pain as you. But at least now you know the truth and that's better than having things drag on even longer. I was met with the same unemotional response when I found out about my W's affair and I did a lot of the classic "wrong" things (pleading, discrediting the O/M etc.). Try to be confident and self assured, no matter how hard the task.

I know it's difficult to believe, but if you do end up parting it will probably feel better than what you're going through now. I absolutely dreaded the day my W was going to move out, but I actually felt relieved the day after. The odd thing is, we're still on good terms and she actually encourages/affirms my calling every night to wish my child goodnight (we have joint custody, but she has primary residence). Invariably, this means chatting with my W for a few minutes and the conversations are pleasant in tone (she even slips out "love" sometimes). Who knows, maybe by affirming your W's decision to move on without you, it may work to your benefit, perhaps even a chance for reconciliation should her affair fall through. At that point, the decision would be in your court.

I have made the decision to move on without my W for a host of reasons, but that doesn't mean we can't be on friendly terms. I hope which ever way it works out for you that at the very least you can maintain a civil relationship as hatred and spite serve no one well. If you have means to discuss your feelings with a counsellor, this may be a huge help.

Keep us up to date how things get along - you WILL be fine.

Disbelief

[Springheeled Jack]

Thanks guys.

It is hard especially after what we've been through. My parents not speaking to me for two years because they didnt like her, and the things they said a bout her are now coming true. I made contact back with my mother, and after the "I told you so", she told me that she was disgusted at how I was being treated by my wife.

I never got on with my Dad, but her he told my nmother that my treatment was bang outof order.

It is totally diffferent now at home, I went to kiss my wife and she "flinched" so myuch a blind man couldnt fail to spot it. Im dreading her leaving, she's given me no date and shes also not packed anything.

Helen, I will keep fighting for her nd for our marriage, and I will retain my dignity. Its hard. Im just dreading losing her. The day she goes, I cannot stand there and watch her go out the door, it is a cruel thing for her to expect me to do that. I have to be else where as I dont want her to go, I want us to patch things up.

It helps knowing you guys are here. Bless you. Ill let you know how I get on.

Jack

[London]

How do you plan on "retaining your dignity" when youhave already given her your poem which she cast aside, went to kiss her and she flinched and are still "begging" her (through words and actions) to stay when she clearly doesn't. How about for once, understanding her point of view and telling her she is "free to go" bc that is what love is - "If you love someone, you should be able to set them free". Now, that would be real love for her

[roppelt]

I don't mean to be harsh but you need to let it go, if she wont move you need to.

[Springheeled Jack]

Harsh, no, true yes.

I had a once and for all conversation with my wife Saturday. I told her everything. I had nothing to lose. From her "flinching" to the poem. I said that if she doesnt love me anymore, doesnt see me in the same light anymore, just to tell me. She didnt say anything.

At the end of the day she is free to leave, I cant stop her. I just hope she wont insult me by saying "can we still be friends". One doesnt do that to ones "friends". The answer to that will be "Er...NO!" Not to be horible, be cause if I cant be her husband, I cant be her friend.

She hasnt packed anything nor has she told me when she is going. She's still here. Ive no intention of moving, if my wife wants to go, really I cant stop her. However, I would hope that she wont be cruel enough to go whilst Im there. I dont want her to go, I want us to patch our marriage. If she does want to go, I would prefer her to leave whilst Im not there.

I cant bare to watch my life walk out the door. I would rather come home and the house be empty. I cant bare to watch her go. So to retain what dignity I have left, I dont want to be in the vicinity.

And yes, if you love someone set them free, If them come back you were meant to be, If they dont, you were never meant to be in the first place.

Sad but true.

[jools]

I think your attitude is right. I didn't mean to be hurtful when I said about desperation being unattractive, but I wouldn't mind betting that as you become less desperate about the possible loss of your wife ( by that I mean the less you show it) she will be less inclined to leave. The more you back off and do yor own thing the less she will try to pull away. It's hard to do, but you must try to be consitent. Anyway, I wish you all the best.
Love Jools.
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[Springheeled Jack]

Thanks jools, Ill try anything to save our marriage

Jack

[London]

If them come back you were meant to be, If they dont, you were never meant to be in the first place.


Jack

No, that's not really true.... sometimes, its just a matter of "they were right at that time of your life". Ideally, it would be for all your life, but it doesn't work that way.... as you and many others have found out the hard way.

[Springheeled Jack]

Hmmm, not sure Id agree with you with most of what you said. Being right at that time isnt necessarily so. Yes, I have found out the hard way.

My wife swore blind that she would never be like my first wife who had an affair with her ex boyfriend, and a nother male friend. she said that she would never treat me badly. I believed her hook line and sinker.

Ideally I thought that she was the one that I could love and be with for the rest ofmy life but sadly look how its turned out.

I cant stop my wife from leaving, Ive taken jools' advice and backed off slightly, if she doesnt come back then she was never for me in the first place. If she returns then I know we have a change to salvage our marriage.

Like wise I am not going to tell her to go. She has to do that of her own accord, then at least I can look myself in the mirror and say.

"Well Jack old son, at least it wasnt you as you tried your best..."

[Springheeled Jack]

......And no one can say otherwise"

[London]

You just agreed with me by what you said above! "Ideally I thought that she was the one that I could love and be with for the rest ofmy life but sadly look how its turned out." - At the time, you thought she was *the* one - but obviously that didn't turn out to be the case. She *was* right for you at one point in your life but is no longer.

Anyways, you are full of contradictions in your posting and in what you say you are doing -


Ive taken jools' advice and backed off slightly, if she doesnt come back then she was never for me in the first place. If she returns then I know we have a change to salvage our marriage."


Oh? is that why you said in another post that you "tried to initiate lovemaking" with her on Saturday night? Is that backing off? No, its being pushy and imposing your will and desires on someone who has made her feelings and intentions clear for you.

Of course, You are free to do what you want, but at least be consistent in your posts and for heaven's sake, stop trying to paint yourslef as the martyr in all of this. A lot of what you have said indicates some behavioural issues (eg passive aggressive) that have no doubt contributed to the demise of your marriage - I would suggest you evaluate your actions, your words, and yourself in general when you have some free time to prevent the same from happening to wife number three (or girlfriend).

Best of luck with this mate.

* ps: if you still don't know what passive aggressive is, please do look it up - I'm not trying to be mean here. Often people don't even know they are being this way and these actions lead other people to recoil away from that individual....

[Springheeled Jack]

I do know what passive aggressive means asI asked someone that does know.


there will not be a wife number 3, ever.

Ys, I initiated what I did. she could have said "NO". She didnt but If that had happened, I would have stopped in my tracks. Why contrive something that doesnt exist for my own ends, that proves nothing.

As for having behaviour issues, Nope.

My wife is reacting like she is, treating me like dirt, Im on the receiving end taking it. End of.

I cant stop her from leaving, if or when she does, Im not chasing after her, that will prove nothing. I just do not want to be around when she leaves, especially as I dont want her to go. Why chase after rainbows.

Like I said and I stand by it, if she goes and doesnt return, she was nevr for me, if she returns, then theres a chance.

As for contraction, No.

no one can tell me that Im not trying to save our marriage, no one can tell me Im not trying.
At teh endof the day, when she goes, I tried my hardest and my best.

As for a simple love poem making a difference, Good Grief I tried to show my wife how much I love her....

[London]

Ys, I initiated what I did. she could have said "NO".

Right, so she had pity sex with you - and you being "sex deprived" for over two months as you have been telling everyone - took what you could. You didn't make love, you had sex.

As for "trying" and not "chasing rainbows"....... as I said before, good luck, by the sounds of it, you need it quite bad.

btw: it takes two to tango and you are not faultless in these tales of marital woes. For chrissakes, this is wife #2 we're talking about and she's about to leave you in the SAME way your first wife did - do you not see a pattern?

[Springheeled Jack]

No. London no pattern.

My first wife had two affairs behind my back, got pregnant by one of them and tried to pass the kid of as mine. She wanted to come back to me, I had her back, she cheated on me again, so I divorced her on the grounds of infidelity.

Im a God fearing Hard working man that wanted to look after his wife and child, and provide for them. She betrayed.

She lied about me to the court, I proved she did as so did my lawyer, enough that her own lawyer dismissed her.

My present wife said she would never treat me in the same way......ahem.

As for Saturday night, you are wrong, I thought if I dont ininitated anything then nothing happens, nothing has since.

I suggest London you reread my posts, no pattern no contradiction, just a guy that loves his wife, takes her abuse, is being treated like a 2nd class citizen in his own house.

Step daughter is stirring things alot and will not be happy til my wife goes.

If she is having an affair then she leaves, marriage ends. At least looking back when my first wife left, it was clinical, she left no note, nothing. When I came home from work she had left. All her and my son's stuff had gone.

It was horrible at the time but at least it was better than this now. Its like on on martial death row waiting formy execution for a crime Im not guilty of. Yes, be fore you interupt London and correct me, yes I do have my faults. However my step childrens bio father is a drug pusher, has 9 kids by a myriad of different women, cheated on my wife time after time, slept with another woman when my wife was in hospital having his son, mistreated my step son when he found out he had special needs.

I am the "opposite", I have and never would dream of doing anything like what he did. I would never cheat on my wife ever, I would love us to have our baby, but she said she would abort it if I got her pregnant. If I didnt love her do you honestly think that afer being told that that I would stay in our marriage? She said I didnt know what love is. Er..... I think she should open her eyes.

If I ever found out that my wife was seeing someone else, then the marriage would end by my hands. She would have to leave. She would have to have a damn good reason for returning.

End of, simple as.
Jack

[London]

no pattern no contradiction, just a guy that loves his wife, takes her abuse, is being treated like a 2nd class citizen in his own house.

My first wife had two affairs behind my back


And your second wife is NOT having an affair (oh yeah, you don't "know" yet for a fact)? And she is NOT treating you like a second class citizen? No, no pattern.... what is about you that pushes women to have affairs and treat you like a push-over? Oh yeah, nothing, you are a god-fearing bloke who is just blinded by his own ego....


I would love us to have our baby, but she said she would abort it if I got her pregnant. If I didnt love her do you honestly think that afer being told that that I would stay in our marriage? She said I didnt know what love is. Er..... I think she should open her eyes.



Yes, but clearly, this woman is telling you NO WAY - NO WAY does she want you to have a baby with her - oh yeah, that's not a sign that she doesn't love you anymore.... But you know, out of all this, maybe she has a point - YOU DON"T KNOW what love is...... I mean, you still think she loves you yet clearly, clear as day, she does not..... Giving her poems and arranging a birthday dinner is not love. But I digress.

Have you actually done any real soul-searching to see why you are in the predicament you are, again?

[Springheeled Jack]

Let me explain afew things her.

My first wife had two affairs, SHE CAME BACK both times, I was taking her to court at the time and sortly becuase the second hearing over our son, she begged for me to take her back. This I stupidly did, and then she got me to cancel the second hearing as we were "back together" when I cancelled the second hearing which would have exposed my wife as a liar, she left again.

Basically London I was set up.

She left me in £9,000 worth of debt with her running up hugh catalogue bills. I had to work like a dof to pay them off only to fins she had run up another lot. I refused to pay them, and sent the debt collectors round to her mother. MY ex was taken to court by the catalogue people.

This time, if I find out my wife is having an affair, the marriage would be over, simple as, end of.

As for her aborting my child, well to quote a member of my own family "what a wicked, evil thing to say to a guy and a wicked evil thing to do..." Harsh words but true.

I "do know" what love is, if I did love my wife, Id show her the door, the marriage would be over. I wouldnt pick up with the BS I get my my step daughter, and she would be outon her ear. I wouldnt put up with the crap
that I get from my wife if I didnt love her.

As for writing a simple love poem to show my wife on our 2nd wedding anniversary in an attempt to save my marriage......oh please.

[London]

As for her aborting my child, well to quote a member of my own family "what a wicked, evil thing to say to a guy and a wicked evil thing to do..." Harsh words but true.

While it may be a "wicked" thing to say, the point is your wife doesn't love you anywhere close to wanting a child with you - that in itself speaks volumes. But then again, you are in denial.....


I "do know" what love is, if I did love my wife, Id show her the door, the marriage would be over. I wouldnt pick up with the BS I get my my step daughter, and she would be outon her ear. I wouldnt put up with the crap
that I get from my wife if I didnt love her.

Just putting up with "crap" is not love - its just that - putting up with crap and that may be one of the reasons why you are where you are. You claim your first wife "set you up" - sure - sounds like she played you for what you really are. And guess what, your second wife may vey well be "playing" you.... You're a sucker with an inflated sense of ego who constantly lives in denial and thinks his actions are oh so grand. A little bit of self-analysis might help.

Look, as far as that poem goes, give it up - no one cares about it - so stop mentioning it every post. Its no longer about that.

But you haven't really answered the points at hand rasied in earlier posts.

[Springheeled Jack]

London, my ego has be deflated, rather than the other way around!

Where A baby is concerned, when we got engaged, she told my parents that she “couldn’t wait” to
Have a child with me, she told my parents, my brotyhersd and their wives. She said and I
Quote “I cant wait to have a baby with Jack but AFTER we are married”

Ring on finger, I got the real answer.

As of yet, Ive no date when she is leaving, nothing has been packed. I cant stop her from
Leaving. IT will break my heart. Im only human after all.

The reason this happens to me is that Im too trusting. Ive picked the wrong women at the wrong time, simple enough answer. I trusted Mrs Jack No1 and she betrayed me big time. I trusted Mrs Jack No2 and she is going to or is betraying me. I find out then I will be the one calling time.

I cant go through life mistrusting every woman I meet no can I!

I have answered the points in the previous posts via explainations,. What ego do you think I have? Im married to a woman that is now treating me like poo, refuses to have a baby with me all tohught it was a different story BEFORE we got married, as she told nearly a room full of people “she couldn’t wait” to get pregnant.

She treating me like I me a leper, and there is a distint possibilty shes seening some one else! How on earth can I have a “ego”.. Im the victim here.

So she doesn’t love me, ssoooooo why hasn’t she packed anything? Why hasn’t she left yet?

And yes I will mention my poem, I showed it to a friend who thought it was beautiful and is horrified at the reception it got……nice thanks!!

I have soul searched as to me being to blame. Well if being a God fearing, church going, hard working man that loves his wife dearly is a crime, then jail me M’lud!!

That is what is is all about.

[London]

Jack, all i can say is that i hope you can find someone who will value what you have to offer and who will appreciate you for who you are - not what they want you to be.

While I maintain you are somewhat a victim of your own doing (eg "picking" the wrong woman twice), you also need to be a man of your own doing - eg knowing when to call it quits on a bad situation (and i don;t just mean your wife here - but any situation). When that is, is of course, a matter of complexity. Hopefully, whatever the outcome, you remain unbitter and able to carry on.

Good luck mate.....

[Springheeled Jack]

Thank you London,I need ALL the luck I can get. Whilst I dont knwo how this will turn out, I hope that I can rescue my marriage. If I cant then I can. If my wife walks out the door that she walks. I cant stop her. If she is having an affair, then Ill be the one packing her bags for her.

I made two promises to myself, the first not to marry till I was damn sure. And the other well, that is between me and my maker..

Springheeled Jack